Instead the commentators just marveled at it in a way that excluded listener. a series of checklists and calculated gradations to categorize and direct a set of tasks. are we making machines smarter or dumbing down the rest of society so that they fit in better? The Furby thing is interesting, but the discussion with Caleb Chung could have benefitted from just another 30 seconds of digging into his argument - it's rooted in the kind of thinking that underlies behaviorism, a theory of mind that was cutting edge in the first half of the last century. I am very happy to hear that he has found a vocation where his study of human gesture has been put to such good use. From a behaviorist perspective, love, hate, thinking, freedom, etc," are conceptual labels that we use to describe a behavioral set. If this is the case then any programmer could replicate a behavioral set to produce the construct. Our affinity to feel "real" does not lie outside of ourselves but rather is interpreted internally! Chris Fernandes, LMHCBehavioral Psychotherapist Thank you again for a wonderful show. That is, from a completely materialistic pov, once we totally understand how our own brains work, will we be able to say that we are any more alive than a program that we also understand completely.